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All-Pass Filter Problem 3 years 9 months ago #49796

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I am experimenting with linear-phase crossovers and as a first step, I wanted to create an all-pass filter network.

When importing a simple 2nd order maximum phase FIR filter exported from FIR Designer M by Eclipse Audio, I get frequency filtering in the miniDSP software.

What am I doing wrong?

I followed this guide.

For any helpful replies, thank you in advance.
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All-Pass Filter Problem 3 years 9 months ago #49915

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Quick update, I found out that there's a longer delay needed as the all-pass filter is at such a low-frequency.

Now I ran into another problem, I get an error saying that I use invalid coefficients, after clicking the ok button many times, the values change to undefined.

Can someone please help me out here? I am still using the guide linked above.

Thank you in advance :)
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All-Pass Filter Problem 3 years 9 months ago #49917

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I'm not familiar with FIR Designer, but why not post in the FIR Designer section of the forum here so Michael will notice your query and answer it.
www.minidsp.com/forum/fir-designer-by-eclipseaudio

I don't know why you desire to create an all-pass filter with a FIR scheme. All-pass filters are easily created with the IIR method via the advanced portion of the basic PEQ function in the miniDSP products.
As an example, a simple 2nd-order all-pass at 38Hz can be created with these coefficients.

a0 1
a1 1.990076284018420
a2 -0.990100904053144

b0 0.990100904053144
b1 -1.990076284018420
b2 1.000000000000000


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All-Pass Filter Problem 3 years 9 months ago #49918

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thanks for your reply dreite!

I just posted it :)

My goal is experimenting with linearising phase problems, and in the case of the speaker I am using, a normal IIR 2nd-order makes it worse, while a Maximum Phase FIR filter enables me to linearise it.

I attached some pics for clarification.
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All-Pass Filter Problem 3 years 9 months ago #49919

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Yes, an all-pass filter creates further phase shift.

You're desiring to create a correction filter to unwrap the phase shift of your normal roll-off and/or crossover filters?
So, yes, a utility like FIR Designer will do that. You just need to compute the correct coefficients in the correct miniDSP format and it will work. I suggest to query Michael and he can identify your problem.

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All-Pass Filter Problem 3 years 9 months ago #49921

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Yes, the end result will hopefully be a crossover design that incorporates a mixed filter design to get a linear phase system :)

He always delivers great answers so I am hopeful :lol:

Thanks for your help as well Dave!

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