return of the 69-cent wonder

mhardy6647

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When he was in 10th grade, our son did a high-school science fair project based around the venerable PartsExpress 269-469 4" fullrange driver. He measured the T-S parameters for the drivers and designed "optimal" vented and sealed boxes for them based on the measured parameters. He built the boxes and compared the frequency response (as best he could) with a Radio Shack SPL meter (the latter a "secret Santa" gift from AK member Toasted Almond some years back).

The vented enclosure was more pleasing overall, so the pair (which were the same internal volume, interestingly) were both converted to vented boxes. They were on long-term loan to a Bottlehead friend in MD for a couple of years (due mostly to my sloth in retrieving them). I picked them up a couple of weeks back and brought them back to MA -- somewhat ironically, since the aforementioned son is now in college in MD (but with other speakers)!

Having the house to myself this AM (Mrs. H is at a meeting at our church), I spent a little quality time with these little guys and snapped a few photos. If you have never heard one (or more!) of these amazing little drivers... you should seek some out and listen. They are really amazingly satisfying fullrange speakers. They are, empirically, capable of more bass in a larger enclosure than the "optimal" (critically damped) enclosures shown, but they still sound really good. They are also really efficient; fine for low power SET amps.

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They also lend themselves nicely to line arrays... if you've never seen the link(s) below... take a look sometime!

http://ratch-h.com/tweak.html
http://ratch-h.com/pa-speaker.html (the 269=469's were original 95 cents, later reduced to 69 cents on closeout!)
http://ratch-h.com/69centwonder.html

A similar looking (if not identical?) driver appears to still be available from Madisound (albeit rather more expensively):
http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=5017227.9823&pid=915

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Pretty neat. I must admit I am a bit disappointed though. I was hoping that PE had a bunch of these (or something similar) on clearance again.
 
coooooooooool !

I STILL have a ton of these in the basement waiting for a purpose. I like the switchable dipole/bipole project on that website.

this is so my new home theater speaker :D (I keed I keed!):

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markus said:
coooooooooool !

I STILL have a ton of these in the basement waiting for a purpose. I like the switchable dipole/bipole project on that website.

this is so my new home theater speaker :D (I keed I keed!):

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Isn't that a stack of 901's?:D
 
I used the similar (and better in some ways) 4" drivers dubbed the NSB (no stinking badges) and the 69 cent woofers. Both produced high quality sound for the dollar and made excellent line arrays like mentioned. I love parts bin projects. Hopefully, more people will post theirs as a result.
 
huh huh

coooould be huh ? that 'wall of sound' would work best pointed to the backyard during barbecues . . .
 
If you do the wall of sound, do a 7x7 Bessel Array. In a 7 driver array, the center position is left open, requiring only 6 drivers. By making it a 7x7 array, you'd need 36 driver per side and you could put a nice efficient bullet tweeter in the center of the enclosure.

O O O X O O O
O O O X O O O
O O O X O O O
X X X T X X X
O O O X O O O
O O O X O O O
O O O X O O O



O represents the woofers, X represents the blanks and T represents the tweeter. :)
 
I forgot to mention that the Bessel array's advantage over other walls of sound would be that the wiring scheme makes them perform like a point source, when at a distance appoximately 10x the width of the array with good off axis response considering the design. Seems like a good application for me, if you are putting it outside.
 
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